Federal Court of Australia

The Epoch Holding Group Pty Ltd v Katz (Evidence Admissibility) [2024] FCA 1531

File number(s):

NSD 527 of 2022

Judgment of:

NEEDHAM J

Date of judgment:

2 October 2024

Catchwords:

EVIDENCE – whether affidavits of US attorney at law in relation to proposed § 1782 applications under Title 28 of the United States Code are admissible in interlocutory hearing – whether affidavits need to comply with Expert Evidence Code of Conduct – deponent an expert but not independent of applicants - affidavits admissible except for expressions of opinion as to the application of the foreign law

Legislation:

Evidence Act 1995 (Cth) ss 79, 135

Federal Court Rules 2011 (Cth) r 23.11

Expert Evidence Practice Note (GPN-EXPT)

Cases cited:

Lavecky v Visa Inc [2017] FCA 454

Mumbin v Northern Territory of Australia (No 1) [2020] FCA 475

Wood v the Queen (2012) 84 NSWLR 581; [2012] NSWCCA 21

Davies M, Bell AS, Brereton PLG and Douglas M, Nygh’s Conflict of Laws in Australia (10th ed, Lexis Nexis Butterworths, 2019

Division:

General Division

Registry:

New South Wales

National Practice Area:

Intellectual Property

Sub-area:

Copyright and Industrial Designs

Number of paragraphs:

16

Date of hearing:

2 October 2024

Counsel for the Applicants:

Mr P. Flynn SC with Mr J. Elks

Solicitor for the Applicants:

King & Wood Mallesons

Counsel for the Second Respondent:

Mr J. Lockhart SC with Mr P. Gaffney

Solicitor for the Second Respondent:

Herbert Smith Freehills

ORDERS

NSD 527 of 2022

BETWEEN:

THE EPOCH HOLDING GROUP PTY LTD

First Applicant

EPOCH CAPITAL PTY LTD

Second Applicant

EPOCH SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT PTY LTD (and others named in the Schedule)

Third Applicant

AND:

DAVID KATZ

Respondent

order made by:

NEEDHAM J

DATE OF ORDER:

2 october 2024

THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

1.    The last three sentences in paragraph [44], commencing with “Further”, and paragraph [46], of the affidavit of Professor Gene M Burd dated 1 August 2024, are rejected.

Note:    Entry of orders is dealt with in Rule 39.32 of the Federal Court Rules 2011.

EX-TEMPORE REASONS FOR JUDGMENT

Revised from transcript

NEEDHAM J:

1    The applicant seeks to rely upon two affidavits of Professor Gene M. Burd who is an American attorney at law. Those affidavits are sought to be read on this application, and they appear under tabs D10 and D11 of the court book. They are dated, respectively, 1 August 2024 (Burd 1) and 13 August 2024. Professor Burd seeks to set out the way in which the relevant law of the United States would be applied so as to facilitate the issue of subpoenas.

2    The application before me is for the court’s approval to make an application for orders under §1782 of Title 28 of the United States Code. Professor Burd is not an independent expert. He is a member of the firm Pierson Ferdinand LLP, which will, if approval is granted, act on the application under §1782. Mr Lockhart SC for the respondent has made objections, both to the affidavits being read, which is a global objection to their admission, but also raises specific objections to particular portions which are the last three sentences of [44], and the whole of [46] in the affidavit dated 1 August 2024.

3    The first objection to the affidavits being read is that Professor Burd is not an independent expert and, aligned with that, that his affidavits do not comply with the rules relating to expert evidence. Reliance is placed upon the Expert Evidence Practice Note (GPN-EXPT), in particular [2.2] and [4.4].

4    In relation to the global objection, Professor Burd has not deposed that he has read the Harmonised Expert Witness Code of Conduct, which is annexure A to the Practice Note, and it is submitted by Mr Flynn SC for the applicants that he could not have done adopted that Code of Conduct because the professor is not, indeed, an independent expert, being a lawyer acting for the applicant.

5    The submission from the respondent is that the affidavit should be rejected for that lack of compliance with the expert code of evidence, and with s 79 of the Evidence Act 1995 (Cth).

6    Mr Lockhart SC points to the prejudice which he says will accrue should the affidavits be read, given that his client is entitled to rely on the processes of the court relating to expert evidence protocols.

7    In relation to the specific objections, the basis is that those paragraphs purport to give evidence of the way in which the American law would be applied in the US courts, rather than the mere content of foreign law, and reliance was placed on [17.8] of Davies M, Bell AS, Brereton PLG and Douglas M, Nyghs Conflict of Laws in Australia (10th ed, Lexis Nexis Butterworths, 2019)

8    Mr Lockhart SC submits that s 135 of the Evidence Act 1995 would indicate that the affidavits should not be read as they are matters which impose a significant prejudice upon his client. Mr Lockhart SC referred to Wood v the Queen (2012) 84 NSWLR 581; [2012] NSWCCA 21 at [728]–[730] to ground a submission that the opinion of a non-independent expert should carry “minimal if any weight” (at [730]).

9    In response, Mr Flynn SC submits that the decision of Griffith J in Mumbin v Northern Territory of Australia (No 1) [2020] FCA 475 at [85]–[86] demonstrates two things. Firstly, that opinion evidence of this kind is not restricted to independent experts. He pointed to the admission of evidence by Griffith J in that case of evidence of an anthropologist, who was involved with the claims the subject of that application. And secondly, that r 23.11 of the Federal Court Rules 2011 (Cth) (FC Rules), which was relied upon by Mr Lockhart SC, does not operate to exclude this evidence, given that this is an interlocutory application, rather than a trial.

10    In relation to the specific objections, I was taken to a decision of Perram J in Lavecky v Visa Inc [2017] FCA 454 at [30]–[34]. At [33], his Honour notes that:

It would need to be strikingly obvious that an application such as the present was not permitted under foreign law before this Court would consider working out the procedural law of foreign courts which are much better placed to do so.

11    In [32], his Honour said that he had received in those proceedings:

… extensive expert evidence about the intricacies of US federal procedure on the present application. I do not think that this Court should enter that fray. Beyond satisfying itself that what proposed is not obviously a waste of time, this Court should not spend any of its time on that topic.

12    Mr Flynn SC submitted that the portions objected to in [44] and [46] were the kind of evidence which one would expect a foreign lawyer to be able to give, and it would be the kind of evidence which the court would receive on an application for the relief sought.

13    In considering the question of whether the affidavit should be received into evidence, I am satisfied that they are not excluded by r 23.11 of the FC Rules, as this is an interlocutory application, and I note the definition of a trial in the dictionary. Nor am I persuaded that the mere fact that Professor Burd is not an independent expert takes these affidavits out of the realm of admissibility under s79 of the Evidence Act 1995. As noted in Mumbin at [86], I have a discretion to waive any of the rules which may apply.

14    If necessary, I would waive any requirement of compliance with the Expert Evidence Practice Note, but I do not believe that any such waiver is necessary, given that the Practice Note does not preclude this kind of evidence.

15    I will, however, reject the last three sentences in [44], commencing with “Further”, and [46] of Burd 1, given that it appears to me that they are indeed expressions of opinion as to the application of the foreign law, rather than evidence as to the content of the foreign law.

16    I note that there is a question of the weight to be given to Professor Burd’s evidence, and I do not exclude any further submissions by either party as to the weight to which I should give it as the application proceeds.

I certify that the preceding sixteen (16) numbered paragraphs are a true copy of the Reasons for Judgment of the Honourable Justice Needham.

Associate:

Dated:    28 March 2025


SCHEDULE OF PARTIES

NSD 527 of 2022

Applicants

Fourth Applicant:

THE EPOCH TRADING GROUP PTY LTD

Fifth Applicant:

EPOCH SERVICES AUSTRALIA PTY LTD

Sixth Applicant:

EPOCH TRADING SERVICES LTD

Seventh Applicant:

EPOCH CAPITAL LTD

Eighth Applicant:

EPOCH CAPITAL US LLC